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Roshei Yeshivos Discuss Admission and Enrollment at Yeshivos Gedolos

Last week dozens of roshei yeshivos gedolos gathered at the request of HaRav Aharon Leib Shteinman, HaRav Michel Yehuda Lefkowitz and HaRav Gershon Edelstein for a special meeting at HaRav Shteinman's home to discuss acceptance and enrollment of talmidim at yeshivos gedolos.

Opening the discussion, HaRav Lefkowitz said, "Based on experience during this time of year talmidim enter a state of stress to properly prepare themselves for the admission exams for yeshivos gedolos although this is not justified. If a talmid listens carefully to the shiurim and reviews the material several times, as practiced at serious yeshivas, this is enough to pass the exam. But the reality is that talmidim do not accept these simple points, but go into a state of stress.

"Human nature is that when an individual is in a state of tension, after he is released from it he relaxes completely from all the tension he had. As a result we receive numerous complaints from various places of talmidim in Shiur Gimmel at yeshivos ketanos who, following the exams for yeshivos gedolos, throw off the yoke of learning and sedorim, causing bitul Torah and great laxity among them and the rest of the talmidim at the yeshiva. In fact in some cases during this period they lose all they achieved during their studies at the yeshiva ketanoh.

"Furthermore, the yeshiva gedoloh where the talmid will be admitted and where he will learn also stands to lose because although at the time of the test he was fit for acceptance there, during the period following the exam his level [of learning] decreased due to the period of prikas ol and he arrives at the yeshiva in a lowered state and, Rachmono litzlan, who knows how much he will succeed in raising himself up again to go back on track? And his entire future depends on this, as it says in Chagigah 11 on the verse, `Tov acharis dovor meireishiso,' meaning the good that comes to light in the end depends on the beginning. If the beginning involved kabolas ol Torah and kabolas ol rabosov then the end will be good, but sometimes a lacking becomes apparent in the end.

"Unfortunately experience shows there are talmidim who lodge complaints against themselves after a year or two for not understanding the shiurim and not reaching the level on which the rov speaks. They lost all they had in their younger years and no longer take pleasure in their learning. All this depends on their condition when they entered the yeshiva gedoloh.

"In light of these reasons [our] proposal is to hold the tests for yeshivos gedolos at a later date, based on allowances the roshei yeshivos gedolos shlita can make, and certainly everybody is aware of and recognizes the great responsibility [we have to address this situation], therefore everything possible should be done."

HaRav Lefkowitz went on to discuss the typical efforts to persuade talmidim to attend one yeshiva or another and the preparation needed to make the transition from a yeshiva ketanoh to a yeshiva gedoloh. "It is not like the transition from one year to the next, but rather one goes from dependence to independence; [now] one must toil on his own to prepare the sugya in all of its detail and one no longer has the help to the same extent he had previously at the yeshiva ketanoh. This preparation demands that the talmid realize it was not easy to gain admission to the yeshiva and only through hard work and hasmodoh and serious efforts will he be worthy of acceptance, for only then does he receive the yoke of the yeshiva when he enters. But if he knows that he is wanted and people try to convince him to become a talmid at their yeshiva, he will lack all of the necessary preparation and the acceptance of his authority of his rabbonim at the yeshiva he joins.

"Therefore all those involved in the task of enrollment must be very prudent in their ways, their affairs and their speech. They must speak only with the ramim and the parents, not engaging in conversation and persuasion with the talmidim, and should make every effort to ensure their manner of speech remains within the bounds of what it fitting and permitted, and besiyata deShmaya, if we strive toward all these aims, it will strengthen Torah and strengthen the beneficial influence on the talmidim."

Afterwards the roshei yeshivos offered their ideas and discussed various technical arrangements.

HaRav Aharon Leib Shteinman closed the gathering by reading a summary of the decisions agreed upon by the participants (see sidebar), adding, "We have merited salvation through extensive consultation. Certainly everybody has the best interests of the talmidim in mind and nobody thinks otherwise, but each of us has to face various difficulties. We hope all of the roshei yeshivos shlita of the yeshivos ketanos and the yeshivos gedolos will fortify themselves to strengthen the bochurim for Torah and yiras Shomayim and certainly everyone does all they can in this area.

"Special vigilance and leadership of the general population of talmidim is required and then inevitably there will not be a spiritual decline during times of laxity, for if their conduct is worthy and through constant chizuk, then even later, in times of weakness and laxity, they will not decline, chas vesholom. But if over time their conduct is not worthy, who knows what will be the outcome during the period of laxity during bein hazmanim?

"And in addition to vigilance over all of the talmidim attention must be given to each and every individual. Often people think a certain bochur is at the proper dargoh and does not need shmiroh. But this is not true for even such a bochur needs shmiroh. Everyone has yetzer hora. In many cases we see that those who were considered perfect and elevated, are liable to fall as well, chas vesholom. Therefore careful attention must be given to every bochur as much as possible, then b'ezras Hashem all of them will grow to become yirei Shomayim and talmidim chachomim and will bring much nachas to all of Klal Yisroel."

Decisions Reached at the Gathering of Roshei Yeshivos

A. The examinations will begin starting on the morning of Thursday, 24 Tammuz. Any prior [exams] (including during interviews and early exams) constitute a breach.

B. The talmidim must provide a response within 48 hours of the time they are notified of acceptance. The yeshiva management should completely refrain from pressuring for immediate replies.

C. It would be a tikkun godol if those involved in enrollment who work to persuade talmidim, instead speak only to the ramim or the parents, and present them only with the positive aspects of the yeshiva and not come to the point of prohibitions and unfortunate incidents, chas vesholom.

 

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